Bravo for the live and let live--I try to stand up for the rights of folks speaking against things like gay marriage, just so long as the government recognizes my own marriage. Freedom of belief matters.
But, please don't conflate the current insanity with the fight for gay marriage. Chase Strangio, one of the most prominent voices of Trans and the lawyer who just lost the trans case in the Supreme Court, is openly contemptuous of gay marriage and believes Obergefell set the fight for "queer" rights back. It's a completely different batch of activists that took over the gay rights movement after the rest of us declared victory and _tried_ to move on with the live-and-let-live.
Not trying to change your views on gay marriage. Just saying, think about how you'd feel if I as a Catholic tried to lay the oddities of Pentecostal churches at your feet, declaring this entire Protestant thing a failed experiment based on that. The more we learn what the QT+ crowd has been up to while our backs were turned, the less the LGBs support it.
The perfectly named Chase Strangio and their fellow travelers are threat to everyone, I agree. The line should have been drawn after gay marriage, that was enough. Integration into the general culture, not an attempt to destroy it. I think pretty much any American would agree.
Officially I can't support gay marriage--I made the choice to go orthodox and I won't let myself be a hypocrite. But also God's grace is infinite and constant so I don't worry too much about it. He knows everyone's heart and in the end he'll judge fairly.
For example, my buddy "Kelly" and her girlfriend are trying start a family. I just pray "Well, You know them, they haven't committed any murders or crashed the world economy by speculating on toxic subprime mortgage assets, so do what You think best." I can't ask Him to break his rules but I can ask him to maybe bend them a bit.
Not to repeat myself, but I don't worry about it. As the Anglican mystic Julian of Norwich said, "All shall be well, and all shall be well. All matter of things shall be well."
I'll take a Christian who forgives me for being gay over a progressive condemning me for absolutely everything else any day. Especially the Christians who can recognize and value the sincere love between myself and my husband instead of obsessing over what we're doing in our bedroom (none of your business, is what!)
I'm pretty Catholic myself. I know the Church's teachings on these matters, and I wouldn't even say I disagree so much as I contextualize. Like any straight Catholic using birth control, I'm navigating between the ideal and my own fallen reality with love as my lodestar, grateful for Christ's mercy when I fall short.
You sound like one of the good ones. Thanks for the response!
I love this so much. You are the perfect conservative. You don’t wish to rule me, just hold your own beliefs alongside me. This is the best of America. 🇺🇸
Bravo for the live and let live--I try to stand up for the rights of folks speaking against things like gay marriage, just so long as the government recognizes my own marriage. Freedom of belief matters.
But, please don't conflate the current insanity with the fight for gay marriage. Chase Strangio, one of the most prominent voices of Trans and the lawyer who just lost the trans case in the Supreme Court, is openly contemptuous of gay marriage and believes Obergefell set the fight for "queer" rights back. It's a completely different batch of activists that took over the gay rights movement after the rest of us declared victory and _tried_ to move on with the live-and-let-live.
Not trying to change your views on gay marriage. Just saying, think about how you'd feel if I as a Catholic tried to lay the oddities of Pentecostal churches at your feet, declaring this entire Protestant thing a failed experiment based on that. The more we learn what the QT+ crowd has been up to while our backs were turned, the less the LGBs support it.
The perfectly named Chase Strangio and their fellow travelers are threat to everyone, I agree. The line should have been drawn after gay marriage, that was enough. Integration into the general culture, not an attempt to destroy it. I think pretty much any American would agree.
Officially I can't support gay marriage--I made the choice to go orthodox and I won't let myself be a hypocrite. But also God's grace is infinite and constant so I don't worry too much about it. He knows everyone's heart and in the end he'll judge fairly.
For example, my buddy "Kelly" and her girlfriend are trying start a family. I just pray "Well, You know them, they haven't committed any murders or crashed the world economy by speculating on toxic subprime mortgage assets, so do what You think best." I can't ask Him to break his rules but I can ask him to maybe bend them a bit.
Not to repeat myself, but I don't worry about it. As the Anglican mystic Julian of Norwich said, "All shall be well, and all shall be well. All matter of things shall be well."
I'll take a Christian who forgives me for being gay over a progressive condemning me for absolutely everything else any day. Especially the Christians who can recognize and value the sincere love between myself and my husband instead of obsessing over what we're doing in our bedroom (none of your business, is what!)
I'm pretty Catholic myself. I know the Church's teachings on these matters, and I wouldn't even say I disagree so much as I contextualize. Like any straight Catholic using birth control, I'm navigating between the ideal and my own fallen reality with love as my lodestar, grateful for Christ's mercy when I fall short.
You sound like one of the good ones. Thanks for the response!
I love this so much. You are the perfect conservative. You don’t wish to rule me, just hold your own beliefs alongside me. This is the best of America. 🇺🇸
"...the last 60 years of post-modern free-for-all is a bunch of raging nonsense ...." - I love this sentence. and yes, it is.
You have a lot of guts. It's nice to see principle, and religion, even if not mine. But then why does it have to be.